It was hard to coordinate the appointment with the specialist and the date for the Wilkie meeting. Ultimately I had to depend on Prof. Sandmann, who goes in holiday in the middle of August. Later, I can not go to Germany. At least it's difficult because the holidays are over. Unfortunately, some Wilkie had apologize to the meeting because her physical condition was not so good to make a trip. Finally we planned a meeting with four persons. One apologized shortly so we were we were three plus two members. Although we already knew us more than a year, have gone together through ups and downs, the exchange brought new (shared) experiences. I am very grateful for this hours in Bielefeld.